Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Location: Moscow State University
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:24 pm Post subject:
RA3 Japanese style buildup (3ds max)
Dunno how to explain this in detail.....but I will try to make it clear. Most problem is that my 3dmax is in chinese. Would be problems with the terms......
These two are different animations. You can make any of them once you know how this works.
interesting effect, but imo not really suitable for ingame usage, since it looks so much different to anything else in the game.
I think this is only useful for a total conversion where a similar technique is used for warping in anims (like Protoss in Starcraft)
Imo it's also hard to see what's actually going on there. Looks like it's only green which randomly changes into texture.
I think it would be better if the effect helps the player to see the 3D shape of the building, so it should follow imo some simple 3D movement patterns like
-expanding from center outwards
-going from top to bottom (or vice versa)
The pure green (or any other color) also looks like a wrong color conversion imo.
As an SHPer i think we have better ways to make a good looking buildup.
Such a texture effect is really only something for 3D games where the devs were too lazy to add a nice animated 3D model buildup. _________________ SHP Artist of Twisted Insurrection: Nod buildings
Well seems LKO isn't familiar with RA3 at all how Japan side uses nanite nanoassembler methods (looks like holographic green construction) to build their structures unlike Allies and Soviets that use conventional rise of ground buildups.
Intentional high tech theme, sadly buildup can't use transparency for the green as extra layer and show detail animating under as TS anim trick doesnt work AFAIK on ra2. Could always be better no doubt, i think could change solid green to light bright green and yellow line to white tho.
Doing conventional buildup would break tribute to ra3 Japan tho QUICK_EDIT
It'd be interesting to match the first frame of a nanobot buildup to the foundation graphic. That way, you drag the green square around for a bit, and then when you place the building everything transitions upwards from that very green square. QUICK_EDIT
You can't have gradient alpha, however you could use pixel diffusion (aka dissolve in gimp), where the transparency is speckled to various densities.
Ofc for a perfect effect you'd probably have something like a wireframe(similar to cnc3 formation move holograms) build up from the ground and then fill in with hologram followed by texture. But yeah it was definitely meant to be reminiscent of a space-age 3d-printing.
There really is mostly endless ways you can design a buildup... My personal opinion is that as long as you get the idea it's being created and un-created then it works.
I also noticed it's the same green as the placement tiles... So if managed to make it build up from that it could actually look really cool.
Edit: i realized this was what orac was getting at ^ _________________ ????????MyAnimeList my Last.fm Last edited by GenesisAria on Sun May 31, 2015 11:33 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
I think Orac's idea would work best with this method. The green used on mousepal is the same used on the placement grid and unit palette anyway. With trial and error you can easily make it blend seamlessly too. _________________ ~ Excelsior ~ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject:
Great job. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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I was referring to it actually building/drawing up from the base, as opposed to using scale stretching, but it's definitely an excellent quick and dirty way to get something that looks good enough to get the point across. Nice work. _________________ ????????MyAnimeList my Last.fm QUICK_EDIT
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RA3 Japanese style buildup (3ds max)
