Petroglyph is up for a new game AGAIN

Orac · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject:

If there's a delay on miner replacement, that might offset it. And a "Rush Production" button to immediately replace it at a more significant financial cost would be interesting.
I don't know how they're doing it, but one hopes they do a lot of outside playtesting to nail down these core concepts.

Iran · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 23 Mar 2011

Game looks extremely retarded and the gameplay looks contrived and boring.

The name is childish too, even though yes it's a well-known term for non-stop replicating nanobots.

Then again this is the same game company which both made a Star Wars RTS game with the name 'Empire at War' and a non-related RTS game called 'Universe at War'. And of course the failure of End O Nations and Victory!

Exley · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:52 am Post subject:

In any company defense I'd say you can't expect much from RTS anymore

this genre was raped by now in so many ways
it cannot go as far unless you start to mix genres together

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Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Automatic harvester management? Let's talk about exploiting it and make enemy furious that AI rebuilds them for you and it dries your money.

OmegaBolt · Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:39 am Post subject:

Maybe it doesn't cost money to replace them, only time (and the money lost by not having them)?

Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Free harvesters would make a game the complete mess, especially in terms of crippling enemy's economy - early rushes for destroying early eco would be scarce cause it doesn't give you advantage if you succeed. And I'm not amazed that Petroglyph can't make a game properly.

Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

i can't see problem to get free harvester as long as they can be kill. just don't have harvester in the right time alone enough to struggle your economic. it's cross solution between building that auto generate resource and good old resource harvester unit.

in fact i quite like this idea, you didn't lost the game instantly when your credit is 0 and lost all harvester the game give you chance to recover and back to the game if your opponent didn't do some thing to finish you off in time.

OmegaBolt · Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:28 pm Post subject:

It would, it would stop you collecting cash for a while. That is really why you kill harvesters in the first place. You don't HAVE to also make the player pay for another havester.

It think commenting on stuff like this before you even know what the eco is like doesn't mean much. Even with free harvesters units could still cost a lot, meaning a delay in collection would cause a big problem for someone.

Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Holy_Master wrote:

in fact i quite like this idea, you didn't lost the game instantly when your credit is 0 and lost all harvester the game give you chance to recover and back to the game if your opponent didn't do some thing to finish you off in time.

That's the purpose why harvesters are targeted during the early game - to cripple enemy and make him surrender quickly. Destroying economy is a normal tactic that forces opponent to spend resources on rebuilding resource gatherers to keep it up. AFAIK, most of the "normal" multiplayer RTS games are played to cripple opponent's economy ASAP - with worse economy they can't keep the pace and lose rather quickly. Free, automated production of resource gatherers is something odd and rather buggy. If they made it that AI rebuilds them automatically and they cost something, then GJ Petro for a quite stupid idea.

Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

no body want to play rts game that end in 3 min with only low tech unit except ranking hardcore who don't care anything but quick ranking. that's one reason why MOBA is so popular and replace to old RTS game because everyone can fun with the game for real. while you think it's stupid idea i think it's genius in term of "game" design.

and OmegaBolt explain really well, even they're free but to lost them still cost your economic.

this's isn't new idea WW use this idea before in C&c renegade and YR.

Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Yeah, sure nobody wants to play such a game. Especially games like both Starcrafts or Warcraft III are dead and C&C is kicking alive.

Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

I kinda miss how when people mention playing WC3 meant playing an actual RTS Match and not people just playing Minigames or DotA in it.

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Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

truly i still play SC2 every night even just vs ai [which i away lost to them #Tongue

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Symphonic · Tiberian Fiend **Joined**: 06 Jan 2009

OmegaBolt wrote:

Well some neat stuff here.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBFTdJSjIjc&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

- I love the command bar. Both the sidebar with global structure etc building tabs and presumably the micro shit put there too.

- Tactically useful terrain.

- Cool underground resource pools & method of collection.

This looks AWESOME. Reminds me of a mix between Command and Conquer and Dominion: Storm Over Gift 3

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blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

dominion was really a neat game.....had so much potential, it's sad that it died pretty much after birth.

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject:

Pretty cool video that shows The Goo for the first time:

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2014/05/14/grey-goo-goo-faction-developer-commentary

Looks very pretty actually, I'm loving that flowing river. #Tongue

Ickus · General **Joined**: 25 Nov 2002 **Location**: @__@

well now, that was interesting...Now one my new favorite factions #Tongue

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

That was pretty interesting.

Beta's Defenses being an amalgam of Component Towers & Garrison was also a nice touch.

I'm liking how the Goo works too (Although thats gonna be a micromanage nightmare for me)

Any guesses on what Team Colors will be now?

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Orac · Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:40 am Post subject:

I hope the goo gets a more dynamic look than what it has now. But apart from that I quite like what I see.
I wonder how moddable it'll be?

Zero18 · Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:18 am Post subject:

Wow, it looks so cool...

I might consider buying this game... just maybe... if it turns out to be really, really good.

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^Rampastein · Rampastring **Joined**: 11 Oct 2008 **Location**: Gensokyo

Orac wrote:

I wonder how moddable it'll be?

UAW at least had a Mod SDK, so unless there's something preventing them from supporting mods in GG, I'd expect GG to be fairly moddable too.

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Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

Truly i don't want gameplay of each faction different from each other too much. like UAW it make me end up to play only Novus because i don't like mechanic of other race. - -'

i'm more expect race different same rate to Starcraft where each faction still collect same kind of resource and build the base. [only different is the way to manage them]

Team Black · Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:21 pm Post subject:

I don't really know the UaW story, but I can see Petro tying the storylines together, where humans get tech from Novus.
Fastforward into the future a bit, and poof. Grey goo.

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^Rampastein · Rampastring **Joined**: 11 Oct 2008 **Location**: Gensokyo

The UaW story was rather shallow. Then again, I'm not expecting them to try tying the storylines together - UaW was a failure and they'll most likely try to do simply better this time, hoping that people forget their failed past products.

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Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

Personally UAW story is not do complicate [good alien vs bad alien] but it telling is quite fun until you reach Massari campaign which feel rush and not so interesting. the ending of game is quite ok even it's not as i expect but not consider to be that bad only what i want to blame UAW is Alamo Engine.

Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

Looks like they finally added the Unit Profiles for the Pathfinder (Grey Goo) Faction

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