Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere in Germany
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:
Features that CAN'T be implemented for some reason
- airstrike (TS doesn't have the necessary code)
- TD-style transport helicopters (transport logic was f***ed up with TS patch 2.0x)
- singleplayer campaign (lack of time) QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: DAS BOOT IM DER OSTSEE
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Morpher. im working on the visceroid so it works/moves EXACTLY like the TS one,yet uses the TD ones image,by the way. its a huge fuckin copy/paste job though. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Location: North America Posts: You cannot comprehend...
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
DAMN!!!!! Those features are C-R-I-T-I-C-A-L for ultimate success with this TC..... Damn. Oh well.
But, why don't U have enough time for the campaign? Tis summer holidays man. PLUS, U could easily look back at the original TD campaign, so thinking up ideas shouldn't be a problem. _________________ Destroy to create. All for the hunt to dominate!
Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Location: Algae Colony On Mars
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:51 am Post subject:
Reaperr, to fix the patch could you not use a modified version of an older game.exe instead? However, you'd probably get more online issues whilst playing, or TS may become compelled to update itself, I'm not sure. _________________
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Can't you just make a building some the air come and blow. like some 1 did whit superweapon in YR.
Make a build or a singnal and then the air bomb the build ! but the enemy much kill the building first that's was some 1 some did i think _________________ Can you hide from me ? QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere in Germany
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:09 am Post subject:
Clazzy wrote:
Reaperr, to fix the patch could you not use a modified version of an older game.exe instead? However, you'd probably get more online issues whilst playing, or TS may become compelled to update itself, I'm not sure.
pre-2.0x exes of TS have much less flexible support for ecache/expand mixes, for example I could only get sounds work when putting them into sounds.mix, not ecache. Also, older versions of TS won't support some features like BurstDelayX. Support for the custom Main Menu would be lost, too.
Plus the issues you mentioned above.
@others: TS isn't YR. things like airstrikes would need to be coded into the exe. EVEN if I knew how to code an airstrike, it wouldn't be possible to implement it without the TS source code, which will most probably never get released to public. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Location: In the Edge of /dev/null
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:05 am Post subject:
Re: Features that CAN'T be implemented for some reason
Reaperrr wrote:
- airstrike (TS doesn't have the necessary code)
- TD-style transport helicopters (transport logic was f***ed up with TS patch 2.0x)
- singleplayer campaign (lack of time)
IMHO, you could creare a little new version of the game, with "Single Player Mission" option, in the main menu, available. Doing this, you could let the other player to create some solo-player missions (maybe the same of the TD game?), without you need to work on them (if you don't have time to spend on these ones). QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere in Germany
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:
Re: Features that CAN'T be implemented for some reason
PUOJACKZ wrote:
Reaperrr wrote:
- airstrike (TS doesn't have the necessary code)
- TD-style transport helicopters (transport logic was f***ed up with TS patch 2.0x)
- singleplayer campaign (lack of time)
IMHO, you could creare a little new version of the game, with "Single Player Mission" option, in the main menu, available. Doing this, you could let the other player to create some solo-player missions (maybe the same of the TD game?), without you need to work on them (if you don't have time to spend on these ones).
I don't like to do that, since as long as there aren't any missions yet you'll get internal errors when clicking on the button.
Besides that, it can quite easily be enabled, you just need to extract the newmenu.ini and enable the button there (currently it's just commented out with an ';' ).
No need to release an extra version of the mod. QUICK_EDIT
Actually TD-style trasport helicopter is possible but:
It needs an shp image (so double rotors would work);
It must be a vehicle type and produced from a factory;
It must use a jumpjet locomotor and therfore be invincible in the air.
The last fact is the worst I suppose. Its still up to you if you want it to do this way. _________________ in 2009 to Florence. Viva Italia! QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Location: In the Edge of /dev/null
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Features that CAN'T be implemented for some reason
Reaperrr wrote:
I don't like to do that, since as long as there aren't any missions yet you'll get internal errors when clicking on the button.
Besides that, it can quite easily be enabled, you just need to extract the newmenu.ini and enable the button there (currently it's just commented out with an ';' ).
No need to release an extra version of the mod.
The important point of the discussion is: the modders must known of this little patch, in order to start creare some solo-player mission, for this incredible TC. So, probably, is good make an official post, saying about how to turn on this feature.
Maybe with the hope to see some solo players maps, in the next future. QUICK_EDIT
Can't you figure somethin out to make airstrikes work? after all Worm came up with a way to put RA2 Nuke in TS with that coding _________________ QUICK_EDIT
I think, in this way, that GunBoat won't be available too. Maybe, could be introduced in any future MODs of ROTD...
Easier than anything... Just create a ship locked on its path. Remember, it wasn't even buildable. _________________ in 2009 to Florence. Viva Italia! QUICK_EDIT
the airstrike coult be re-created..... not to exactly the same effect, but maybe you could just have a buildable A-10, that fires 6 or 7 napalm missiles (as opposed to dropping bombs, as that does not work in TS)
i tried making aircraft by making very fast helicopters, and it is similar, except they circle the target and take hours to land.
but buildable a-10s is better than no airstrike whatsoever! _________________ http://www.AoFP.co.uk - Home of the Alliance Of Freelance Programmers, my post-modding computing efforts, (allthough theres much more than just whats on that site!) QUICK_EDIT
Can't you just make a building some the air come and blow. like some 1 did whit superweapon in YR.
Make a build or a singnal and then the air bomb the build ! but the enemy much kill the building first that's was some 1 some did i think
You're thinking of the Fake Super Weapons like Psycho's Ion Cannon, Meteor Storm, and Airstrike SWs. These cannot be done in TS because they required the use of skirmish/online game mode ini files to work in YR. No such ini files are used in TS. QUICK_EDIT
the airstrike coult be re-created..... not to exactly the same effect, but maybe you could just have a buildable A-10, that fires 6 or 7 napalm missiles (as opposed to dropping bombs, as that does not work in TS)
i tried making aircraft by making very fast helicopters, and it is similar, except they circle the target and take hours to land.
but buildable a-10s is better than no airstrike whatsoever!
... Buildable A-10s suck actually...
So please, stop asking over the A-10s. _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
Everything in that video is and has been known for a long time, it is far from a decent work-around for working rotors / air transports due-to the huge amount of flaws and issues, both graphical and game-play related. QUICK_EDIT
its really great but a shame about the campaign... _________________ You know they say the elephant never forgets, i forgot what the elephant remembered......
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